#0 Name: Anonymous
Welcome to /meta/ - a board for talking about the Bus Stop and anonymous message boards.
This board can fit a whopping number of 100 posts and they won't be removed from here on a daily basis. If you find such a violation of this site's rules unnerving, don't worry - this board is temporary and it won't stay here for too long.

Bus Stop was rewritten to be a generic imageboard software with support of having multiple boards, so basically this board is here to test the stability of this update.

If you're interested, we can talk about web development, the future of this site or general state of things in English speaking imageboard sphere. I can answer some questions if you have any, I'll make several announcements related to the recent update during the following weeks, maybe ask an advice or two and after that this board will be closed.
#2 Name: Anonymous  114d
It says posts won't be removed on a daily basis, but there is still a countdown on >>1's post.

#3 Name: Anonymous  114d
>>2
That's not a countdown!
#4 Name: Anonymous  109d

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It's time for some news this board was created for. I'm going to open source Bus Stop during this weekend, if I have enough time.
So far I think to upload all the server and front end js code on Github under permissive license, without everything related to look and feel of the site like css stylesheet or current settings.
Those files will only be available for download from here, together with instruction on how to fully replicate Bus Stop, so people who are interested in longevity of this site will be able to download, preserve and rehost the site in case of my death or something.
Basically it means that it will only be possible to get the code, setup the basic mock-up version and be creative with it for passerby on Github, but only people who browse Bus Stop will also be able to shamelessly steal it from me. I hope you won't (´∀`;)
#5 Name: Anonymous  108d
>>4
Please consider using a license that guarantees user freedom. In this case the AGPL seems to be the most appropriate.
#6 Name: Anonymous  107d
>>5
I don't know much about it, but I've already put a zlib license text in the sources. It's easy to understand and it lets to do pretty much anything with a codebase.
#13 Name: Anonymous  104d
>>9
I came from there.
#18 Name: Anonymous  99d
test, getting 502 gateway errors
#19 Name: Anonymous  99d
>>18
odd, this posted, then I went to the main board and it worked there too
#20 Name: Anonymous  98d
Why can't I post images?
#21 Name: Anonymous  97d
>>20
I made some mistakes and file uploading crashes the server, so I decided to disable it temporarily. I'm out of town now and I can't fix it over ssh, so it will only be fixed on the weekend. Sorry for that.
#23 Name: Anonymous  93d
I found it on 4taba: https://www.4taba.net/ho/165
#24 Name: Anonymous  92d
>>23
Same
#26 Name: Anonymous  86d

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It makes me sad finding old message boards and looking through posts that are over 6 years old. Thoughts like; 'where did all these people go and what are they doing now?', come to mind.
#27 Name: Anonymous  86d
Even posts on >>>/test/ get banished into the shadow realm, is this what you wanted?
#28 Name: Anonymous  86d
>>27
I guess not. I just didn't think about it and all boards by default inherit settings from the main board.
#32 Name: Anonymous  85d
The /lost-and-found/ board says I can post links only, but links to posts (e.g., >>31) are not allowed?
#33 Name: Anonymous  85d
>>32
It parses the text for urls, and if there's something besides them the check fails. I'll make it more clear or fix it later.
#35 Name: Anonymous  85d
>>34
It already works like that, you can try to post something and see for yourself. Notifications only appear when posts moved or removed by the admin, like I already mentioned. I think it's useful because otherwise people could notice disappeared post thanks to the post counter and wonder the reason. I don't think you will see them often, anyway, so you shouldn't worry.
#36 Name: Anonymous  85d
I think the lost and found board is a really bad idea.
To me, the images without text and music videos are a natural form of expression and hidding them only makes people leave, rather than invinting more discussion.
Cute!! is one of the best parts of this site, even though i don't care much about the pictures themselves.
#37 Name: Anonymous  85d
>>35
Oh, I misunderstood. Seems like a good system then.

>>36
I like the idea, because it sorta separates them to a board that can communicate solely by images, which is what they're doing anyway, without taking images away from the main board.
#43 Name: Anonymous  84d
>>41
Why do you want more people to lose their things, Anonymous?

Also, I deliberately left out the link. I think there's a bit of misunderstanding, but /lost-and-found/ is only here to change the format of Bus Stop's posting, not to support some other ways. It would make sense to promote it if I disabled the file uploading on the main board, but as it stands /lost-and-found/'s main function is suggesting people to reformat their posts, basically it's like a "show, don't tell" rule.
If someone wants to use it as actual or even the main board, that's their choice, but I think it's better not to confuse new visitors with it.
#47 Name: Anonymous  79d
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Reason: security
#48 Name: Anonymous  79d
>>47
Thank you! It's actually my first big webdev project, so I can miss something obvious. At least SQL injections shouldn't work. I don't have time to fix it today, so I'll remove your post to not giving anyone ideas on how to render this site unworkable meanwhile.
#49 Name: Anonymous  78d
>>48
There's already a post with what seems to be an empty subject that can give people ideas. It certainly gave me. You might want to clean >>>/test/ up...
#50 Name: Anonymous  78d
>>49
Yeah I stopped the server and cleaned it up a bit, thanks. I hope we can last until I fix it, without putting it down again.
#51 Name: Anonymous  78d
>>48
Maybe posting it publicly like I did was not smart; sorry about that (;´∀`)
#52 Name: Anonymous  78d
>>51
Oh don't worry. I already fixed the problem, but I can't actually push the changes because of the small disaster - I lost several days of work from Bus Stop's codebase thanks to unsynced backup and I need to restore it first.
#53 Name: Anonymous  77d
>>52
https://git-scm.com/docs/gittutorial
#54 Name: Anonymous  77d
>>53
I use version control, but git directory was overwritten as well. My problem is that I don't have a remote repository and I thought I was pretty safe by syncing directory with important stuff across all my drives including external HDDs. For some reason unison left one of the copies unsycned and the same copy later get the latest date when I moved stuff on the new drive so my recent stuff got overwritten with it, and all other backups are older than that.
#55 Name: Anonymous  77d
>>52
several days of work
The good thing is that Bus Stop doesn't require much time already and when I fix something it's I usually only about an hour of work at max, so it took me around 2 hours to restore everything.

>>47
<script>alert("Now Bus Stop is protected from basic XSS attacks!")</script>

It's still embarrassing, I guess I need to read some sort of HTML for dummies book.

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>>32
It says invalid link again.
#59 Name: Anonymous  73d
>>58
The recent update broke it again, it should work fine now.
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Is this a joke that is going over my head? Or was there an error with a post getting deleted/changed?
#61 Name: Anonymous  58d

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>>60
Are you talking about the hmm post? Check the subject list, I didn't get it immediately either.
#62 Name: Anonymous  58d
>>61
Oh, I see now. That's an odd thing to do. Wasn't even aware subjects were a thing.
#63 Name: Anonymous  40d
It says there are 5 posts in the Cute!! topic on >>>/lost-and-found/, but only three can be seen.
#64 Name: Anonymous  34d
>>63
I fixed the problem that caused it, but then it was too lazy and I decided to ignore the counter for the time being. And I just realized that I only needed to reset the server to fix it, so it shows the right number now.
#66 Name: Anonymous  30d

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In other news, Mona font is just too big, so I disabled it by default to help new visitors with slow connections to see the site for the first time a little faster. Be sure to enable it in the options, it's still the official Bus Stop font! (No script users can browse with Mona on >>>/vip/ and >>>/alt-vip/)

I updated the main board's info post, mainly added some technical stuff on the MISC page.

Also, embedded youtube videos reload very slowly during refreshing of the page, so I decided to open them on the overlay just like pictures. It's also possible to play them right in the thumbnail, by clicking the video icon, should be useful for playing music videos in the background. You can test it with this old Ukranian synthpop video.

#67 Name: Anonymous  30d
>>66
Came here to be sure you knew the font default changed.
I'm interested what you mean by too big. The actual font file is big and needs to be downloaded each time?
#68 Name: Anonymous  29d
>>67
Yeah, it's over 1Mb. For example, this whole page is around 200Kb, so having such a large resource file just felt excessive. Of course, it's cached like everything else and doesn't need to be downloaded each time, but I wanted to minimize things as Bus Stop will be moved to server with slower connection in the future.
#69 Name: Anonymous  29d
>>66
Links like >>>/lost-and-found/ remove the vip specifier.
#70 Name: Anonymous  29d
>>69
That's a shame, I didn't think about it. I doubt it will be fixed, though. The thing is, main board, /vip/ and /alt-vip/ is the same board with same list of posts and subjects, "vip" and "alt-vip" are just the url modifiers that can customize static content used to render the page, like css stylesheet or template file, but I can't change the dynamic content like those links in the posts based on that. I believe making changes to support this would be too messy for such a small feature. Maybe there's some simple way, but for now I don't see it.
#71 Name: Anonymous  28d
>>70
What about query strings?
#72 Name: Anonymous  28d
>>71
I already use them for subjects selecting
https://bus-stop.tk/vip-meta/selectedsubject-2
selectedsubject-2 acts like a query string here, I pass it in the template file as a variable. Board links are dynamic data that is also passed to the template so it won't help with modifying them during requests.

#73 Name: Anonymous  26d
>>72
ah, i misunderstood the original post!
if the problem is that links on /vip-foo/ posts lead to plain /foo/ links, then what about using subdomains and relative hrefs?
#74 Name: Anonymous  26d
>>73
Thanks! I think it's the best way to make it work, as boards paths would stay the same and board links are already relative. Not sure if I like the idea of having sub-domains, though, and those alternative URLs will be looking unusual, but at the same time this is almost an easter egg feature so it's probably not that important.
#75 Name: Anonymous  25d
>>66
Have you look into the Submona font? I can't tell from the description whether it still includes the regular ASCII character range, but if it does, it sounds ideal:

https://github.com/pera/submona-web-font


#76 Name: Anonymous  24d
>>75
Thanks a lot! I downloaded Mona from http://aachan.sageru.org/ and never considered looking for something like this. I've already tested it and it works just fine, I'll revert the changes and will use it by the default instead of the original Mona.
#77 Name: Anonymous  21d
Mona is back as a default font in its 20 times smaller version mentioned in >>75

vip and alt-vip faux boards were purged and noscript mirrors of the site are now reachable through these links
vip.bus-stop.tk
alt-vip.bus-stop.tk

Thanks everyone for useful suggestions!
#80 Name: Anonymous  14d
How about letting us post ogg audio?
#81 Name: Anonymous  13d
>>80
Currently there's a lot of things I want to do with site's software that have a higher priority. I don't think I will add it if it can't be processed the same way as mp3 files, but I couldn't convert mp3 with embedded cover art to ogg with my version of ffmpeg, so I can't even test it for now.
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Switched from Chrome to Firefox and the little video icon is broken (I think).
#83 Name: Anonymous  12d
>>82
It's not really broken, just the Chrome's font for emoji is awful and many symbols are barely recognizable. Maybe I should pick another symbol that is more uniform across the browsers.

🎥 - Another camera, but it looks like something from Galaga in Chrome.

🎞️ - Film frames emoji is pretty good, but it's more vertical in Chrome, so it would be hard to place a white background besides the icon.

🎦 - The cinema emoji, not bad in Chrome, but I don't like it much in Firefox. I'll try this one later to see how it looks.
#84 Name: Anonymous  12d
>>83
The first looks good in both browsers. Or maybe consider a "play" button or similar, those should be more standard.